I usually find people talking about game mechanics to be soporific, but listening to these two fellows hash out how they want to change 5e D&D to fit their campaign setting actually helped me think through a few things for my own games. In later episodes they get a little too into "system matters" stuff for me to really follow, and to be honest I zoned out at points or was doing other things instead of listening intently, but they're thoughtful about games so even if I disagree with some of their ideas this was a worthwhile listen for me.
Also, marvel at how similar those guys look! That hair, those beards!
